A few thoughts on today’s events

Written by Kyle Porter
Photo Attribution: USATSI

Photo Attribution: USATSI

Whew, I feel like I’ve been through a 5-set marathon match and the story hasn’t even dropped yet.

I think that’s kind of the main thing to remember so far. Dan Wolken of USA Today tweeted at me and said he was surprised to see so much rhetoric surrounding a story that hasn’t even come out. I think part of it is OSU trying to get its leaks to the media ahead of time to soften the blow when the actual story comes out but Wolken is pretty spot-on.

A few other thoughts…

1. What would have to be in this article for you to be shocked? Boone doing Chelf things at the Pi Phi house? Red Rock being the “drop point” for players getting paid? Photos of Prentiss Elliot at Boone’s ranch?[1. Twitter avatar 4EVER!]

2. Holder did not have the confidence of a man who has faith in his job or his program today. This is what happens when your pipeline is a single Texas magnate and that Texas magnate once detached himself from your program for a decade because he was pissed about NCAA violations, but still. Also, I agree with what Jimmie Trammel said here, Holder did a great job scrubbing the mess:

He just looks scared to death that Boone’s going to make that phone call..[1. If you work at the Conoco on 51 and Holder drops in, give him his 12-pack of Bud Light Limes on the house. Been a rough one.]

3. I’ve heard a lot of rumors of a possible Sports Illustrated cover for OSU this week as well. If that happens, I mean, wow. What would you have said in August OSU would have had to have done to upend Week 1 of the NFL season for the SI cover? Beat Mississippi State by 350 points?

That would have seemed unfathomable two weeks ago and now we’re all hoping it isn’t true.[1. Which, really, you never want the SI cover, do you? /burns Dez cover from before the Houston game in 2009.]

4. OSU fans really need to settle down about all this “tabloid fodder” and “crap journalism” and everything else until they, you know, read the piece. Contrary to what a lot of you would like to believe outlets like Sports Illustrated and the New York Times and ESPN are not “out to get our program.” All I’ve seen from former players is them saying “everybody just wants you to knock you down when you’re on top.”

What does that even mean??

All Sports Illustrated wants is a great story. Now Thayer Evans is a different story but as we discussed this morning, he’s not the one with his name on the story. George Dohrmann is not messing around.

5. In a Tulsa World article OKC Dave sent me today from 2005 Gundy talked about how everyone was giving him props before the season for kicking seven guys off the team and generally cleaning house. Here was the quote (which is really powerful in retrospect): Maybe halfway through the season, the same┬ápeople who like me now will think I’m an idiot.

6. Kelly Hines, Jimmie Tramel, Berry Tramel, Gina Mizell, and John Helsley have all done a great job with all of this. Props to them for their reporting and, what I can imagine, has been one of the longest days they’ve ever had covering the team.

I’m terrified to step away from my computer at any point right now. I took a 20-minute nap earlier and thought I was going to have an anxiety attack.

When the Ohio State story dropped from Sports Illustrated (and George Dohrmann) it came out on a Monday night at 8:50 PM ET. Not saying that’s when this one will drop but I’d expect a similar timeframe.

I’ll be updating the site all night.

  • g0p0kes

    I don’t know how anyone is focusing on anything but this. Thanks for your great coverage Kyle! My husband and I both have been refreshing your page every half hour. We are nervous Pokes.

  • Brad

    Yet you keep ignoring that former players are saying Thayer was the one contacting them trying to dig up dirt on the program. It’s clear this was his agenda and he kick-started the 18 month long investigation. I’ve now heard SI is refactoring their story pulling bits that they don’t have anything concrete after being ‘taken aback’ but OSU’s concern with his involvement in the story.

  • Scott H

    Man..way too much drama. I get it, but it’s not like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

    • CD

      I’ll bite:

      Q: The German’s Bombed Pearl Harbor?
      A: Forget it, he’s on a roll!

      Oh, and thanks for the great coverage Kyle from me as well. It is what it will be and Thayer Evans being involved is nothing but a joke for SI, whether they realize it or not.

  • PokeInAustin

    Kyle, how can I send you a message?

  • Madsenpoke
  • Jake

    This is what it takes for Kyle to stop talking about uniforms.

  • Chrise
    • R00st3rPokes

      Yikes, that seems worse that I even expected.

  • Nate

    Got to love how Kyle is defending Sports Illustrated, BEFORE HE EVEN READS IT.

    It goes both ways you idiot.

    And Thayer Evans IS at the center of this. That has been confirmed by multiple people… And yes he IS out to get Oklahoma State.

    You are failing so hard already on all of this. Can’t say I’m surprised though.

    • Tom

      No, you are an idiot. Kyle is correct actually. While Evans most likely got SI to start up on the story they are doing all this to sell magazines. I still hate them for it because its at the expense of our program.

      I think most all us agree you are the moron here Nate. Again stop with the hate.

    • Dylan

      Ha! I always enjoy your replies Nate. Not that I agree with them, but I do look forward to what is coming next.

    • J Dub

      I’m not sure why Nate always gets hated on so much. I enjoy his comments and, more often than not, he’s on the money. I too have noticed Kyle’s constant, dramatized, and often misleading twitter plugs for his posts. I must admit, though, that it’s understandable and acceptable; the point of blogging is to have people read your opinion and hopefully make a little cash.

      As far as Thayer is concerned, how is Kyle even remotely correct about him when it says in SI’s announcement of the report “…the investigative report, which was written and reported by senior writers George Dohrmann and Thayer Evans”? We all know of Thayer’s disdain for OSU from his past articles. Does no one here ask themselves “Why OSU?” Why would SI choose to go after OSU when it’s obvious that things like this occur across all of FBS? Thayer, it has to be Thayer. And someone other than Greg Swaim should call them on it. Enter Nate. I applaud you, good sir.

  • Chris P.

    The good news is if the story does drop tomorrow morning it will be overshadowed by Apple’s iPhone announcement at Noon CST.

    I know two different worlds but people can only focus on one at a time.

    • Twatty

      Best comment of the day +5

  • Matt Amilian

    Whether the investigative journalism to gather the information in the report is legit or not, you can’t deny the vitriol Thayer Evans has for OSU played a part in at least getting this started. We’re supposed to believe SI picked OSU because of our “rapid ascension”?


    Shady stuff happens at all major (and probably most non-major) universities. Our problem is that there’s a tool of a “journalist” out there who hates Oklahoma State. Thayer convinced his colleagues at SI that OSU would be worth investigating, and with their help, here we are.

    • Nate


    • MarkW



    Read through T.evans twitter account…he has a history of “selling sizzle” to promote his career while providing little or no “steak” and the whines about how no one is as righteous as he is. See: http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/miami-hurricanes-nevin-shapiro-allegations-show-ncaa-president-mark-emmert-has-no-clue-081611

  • MarkW

    So here’s what I’m getting so far. Thayer and his ol’ buddy George got a little cross threaded because apparently OSU got descent a little to quick in their eyes. They set out to sling some mud, so they dig up all the disgruntled players they can find from the last ten years or so. Hell, these 60 plus players (and apparently coaches plus some assistants) have an axe to grind so why not provide the stone wheel.

    I’ve read on SI that’s its a five part series and how it’s put together for maximum shock factor. I most enjoyed part five about all the knuckleheads that screwed their chances and got kicked off the team and how their lives have spiraled out of control. Who’s fault is that? There’s a point in ones life when they need to grow up. Also, college age girls having sex with college athletes? I’m aghast! Every college athlete, when I was at OSU, from football all the way to the rodeo team had their fair share of, dare I say, “groupies”. At some point I almost expect Thayer to paint Gundy as a gold toothed pimp (complete with pimp cup) ordering women to please his recruits. What a joke. This piece is going to be a sounding board for a bunch of egos that never grew up and still have dillusions of grandeur.