Daily Bullets (April 21)

Written by Steven Mandeville
Top 25? Top 25.

Gundy’s teams are a mainstay in the top 25 and they’re currently in a recruiting top 25:

The Cowboys will be one of the most talked about teams entering the 2017 season, and the last two years of 10-win seasons are having an impact on the trail. The bell cow of the class is ESPN 300 quarterback Spencer Sanders out of Denton, Texas, who is a natural born leader and winner.

Joining Sanders from the Lone State State is fast-rising tight end Nic McTear, linebacker Blake Barron and quarterback/athlete Jaelyn Nolan. In-state offensive tackles Hunter Anthony and Bryce Bray, along with Illinois tackle Hunter Woodward are need-fillers in a big way. [ESPN Insider]

I think this is where familiarity supersedes professional observation. It’s not unusual nor surprising that the Pokes have drawn in a top 25 quarterback, some solid offensive line talent and unearthed a few gems that others will start to pounce on.

Isn’t this the case in most classes? Every other year-ish the Pokes land a four-star quarterback (Rudolph, Kolar, Walsh) and at least initially pull in the top shelf regional three-star o-linemen (Derek Kerstetter and Adrian Wolford last year, Dan Moore in 2016, Ryan McCollum in 2015). Most impressive will be Henson holding onto these guys.

Around 2010-2012, it was common sentiment that we would start to chase down four and five star type guys with the wins racking up and the shiny new stadium. Gundy famously left the club alone, stopped throwing all he had at the top recruits in the land and here we are (winning ten games over five of the last seven years).

Jawun in the Pros

Sports Illustrated has Jawun on their draft board with some “Come to Jesus” type comments about his NBA-ready game.

One of the top playmakers in this class, Evans had some remarkable performances this season and has the end to end speed and ballhandling skills to make up for his smaller stature.

He opened the season on this board and may sneak into the first round if there’s a team in need of an extra lead guard. However, Evans will encounter early trouble finding ways to score against NBA length, and has a bigger learning curve ahead of him to become more than a change-of-pace ballhandler. [Sports Illustrated]

Evans makes his debut at no. 32 on the top 40, just into the second round. It’s hard to blame him for cashing in his chips: he’s (likely) not getting taller and he’s shown his efficiency with sky high usage.

Teams in the early second are usually taking guys overseas to develop. His best shot at NBA minutes is a really good team late in the first  that needs a playmaking backup point guard. Wouldn’t be disappointed to see the Thunder take him at 21…

OSU and NCAA Notes

Baseball takes on Texas Tech in Lubbock tonight….Briles was the fourth highest paid coach in college football his last year….Here comes the Texas hype train….Boston College hired a 37 year old AD….Sassy piece by Central Michigan student in response to the Alamo Bowl rings (Beat Tulsa and we’ll talk)

VT had himself a way of getting penetration, apparently pretty impressively among his peers.

Given it’s a highlight reel, the amount of turnovers Spencer’s defenses force is truly impressive.

A little late to the party but I guess an official announcement wasn’t enough.

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  • David Einstein

    Not sure why CMU is salty about our bowl rings, they could have just won their bowl.

    • CowPoke

      They don’t want to admit their biggest win in school history shouldn’t have been. I get it.

      • Pistols Fired!!

        It shouldn’t have been… but it was. Time for Gundy’s juvenile denial to die and then so will the hub bub. He really should stop reminding fans of what a botched game plan and in-game coaching job we had for it to even be a possibility that officiating error cost us that win. jmho

        • common sense

          Nah, I agree with him. He won the game. The NCAA admitted that OSU won the game. There’s just not a process where they can change the tally officially. OSU won, but the record cannot be changed to reflect that within the NCAA system. It can be changed on rings.

          • Pistols Fired!!

            I respect your right to agree with him… and only question the accuracy of your screen name. :-/ Actual ‘common sense’ would dictate putting it in the past and not reviving it with every possible platform. Consider ‘Gundy Sense’ maybe… (my apologies Lord, and bless all them lil’ pygmies in Africa…)

          • reformedsooner

            I think it actually kind of makes sense for a rattle snake hunting, singlet wearing, mullet man to continue to put his product out there in exactly this way. Not doing so would be very “un-Gundy.”

  • Mark

    Personally if I were a CMU fan I would be just as embarrassed to accept the ‘win’ that shouldn’t have counted as I (according to some around here) should be to claim the ‘win’ as an OSU fan. Gundy was right – the correct way to deal with this situation was to simply award both teams the victory. That would’ve solved so much.

    • Christian Baker

      They’re coming to grips with this reality. I imagine some of them are now realizing how that will be viewed “historically” which is not favorably. They got a W because the refs literally didn’t know the rules, and there’s no debating this fact. We’re embarrassed they were that close, they should be embarrassed for taking a win every single football fan knows they didn’t earn.

      • Mark

        Agreed. The writer of that article called it one of the greatest plays in college football history. Uh, no, it wasn’t. It didn’t exist per the rules of the game. I liken it to a basketball player throwing the ball from half-court 2 seconds after a buzzer and making the goal… Was it cool? Sure. But nothing remotely close to “going down in history” because it was completely irrelevant as far as the game was concerned.

      • Pistols Fired!!

        lmao… I don’t disagree with your overall point, but do you think Gundy would not count it a win if he was on their side of the ball???? just saying… lol

  • Stepdaddy

    If OSU wants to start hanging on to recruits, it needs to eliminate the embarrassing losses. Let me ask a serious question. If you were committed to OSU for almost the entire season, and saw the coaching debacles of CMU and OU, and other big time programs started making late offers, would you stay at committed to OSU?
    The truthful answer is….HELL NO!
    Josh Henson will not have any problem hanging onto recruits or even adding recruits, if OSU plays competitively.

    • Stepdaddy

      How profound! If we went undefeated every year we would get a bunch of good recruits! Never though of it this way, great point coach holder! But seriously the problem with recruiting is big xii perception. ESPN hypes old money schools and tends to ignore OSUs and TCUs. IMO osu needs to step up its marketing. Get the Mullet going through more ESPN car washes.

      • Stepdaddy

        I didn’t say go undefeated. Lots of good teams lose competitive games. OSU is losing recruits because it is getting embarrassed by low tier teams (CMU) and getting boot stomped by OU annually. Just like it takes a toll on the fans, it impacts recruits. But I agree with you that marketing the program on ESPN is a great idea.

        • Kyle Porter

          Gundy is 80-12 as a favorite since 2005. Stoops is 114-26. I don’t think losing to CMU is the issue. High schoolers care less about that thank you probably think they do.

          • ste

            If that makes it easier for you to rationalize, then you keep telling yourself that. Beating OU is preventing OSU from winning more B12 championships. It is no coincidence that they de-committed after the OU game. You should really listen to the former players. The way Gundy has lost in Bedlam makes a HUGE difference. Most players want to play a coach that is going to give them a punchers chance. For example, why do think the players at Millwood where Rashaun Woods is the head coach are going to OU? They don’t want hear about getting boot stomped by OU for rest of their lives. Denying that Gundy has problems coaching against OU, doesn’t change reality.

          • Kyle Porter

            I said losing to CMU wasn’t the issue. I didn’t say losing to OU wasn’t the issue.

          • Stepdaddy

            So you seriously think getting beat up on by a lower tiered program like CMU doesn’t matter to recruits? If so, I disagree.

          • Kyle Porter

            Memphis beat Ole Miss in 2015. Ole Miss signed the No. 5 class in the nation five months later. Same year, The Cidadel (!!) beat South Carolina. SC signed the No. 25 class five months later. No, I don’t think it matters.

          • Stepdaddy

            We all know why Ole Miss was so successful in recruiting. They were cheating. Maybe you are right and I am wrong. But IMO I think it does matter. It indicates the Gundy is having trouble getting to the next level.

          • Stepdaddy

            Also, I am not sure your stats work? Since 2005 there have been 11 football seasons. (92 games/11 is only 8.36 per year). For OU that is 140 games/11 or 12.7 games per year.

          • Kyle Porter

            Yes, OSU has been the favorite in 8.36 games per year and the underdog in ~4 per year.

          • Stepdaddy

            You are still missing some games. That still doesn’t make sense. They play more than 8.36 games per year. Right. Over the same period they should have played close to 140, just like OU, with the exception being b12 championship games.

          • Kyle Porter

            Not sure if you’re being serious.

          • Stepdaddy

            Yes I am serious.
            (80+12) = 92 games over an 11 year period.
            (114+26) +140 games over an 11 year period. I know OU played in some B12 title games during the period, but that still does not explain the difference in the total number games played over an 11 year period.
            Its your stats, I simply pointing out that they are incorrect for some reason.

          • David

            Those records were as favorites. Not all games. OU has been favored in more games than we have. Math solved.

          • Stepdaddy

            Wrong. Was OU favored in 140 games over 11 years or 12.72 games per year. That is not mathematically possible.

          • KWC

            It is mathematically possible because they have played 159 games since 2005.

          • kspokesfan

            SIF CFS His reasoning for his own self.

          • KWC

            That is because he did not say 80-12 in total games played since 2005. He said, 80-12 in games they have been favored. OU has more games listed since 2005 than OSU, because you guessed it OU has been favored in more games than OSU since 2005. There is your answer as to why OU has 140 games listed and OSU only has 92 games listed.

          • Stepdaddy

            Wrong again! Was OU favored in 140 games over 11 years or 12.72 games per year. That is not mathematically possible.

          • KWC

            They played over 14 games a year over the last 11 season… So, it is mathematically possible.

          • David

            Stoops career. Not since 2005. To compare with Gundys career… which began in 2005.

          • Stepdaddy

            Ok. That makes more sense.

          • Kyle Porter

            Includes 2005 season. 12 seasons. You’re leaving out bowl games. OU usually plays 13-14 games a year.

          • EdmondPoke

            woooooooooooo Here comes KP!! Get em Kyle!!

          • kspokesfan

            In case you don’t hear it enough… Thanks Kyle for a great site.

          • Stepdaddy

            How could the play 14 games before the BCS bowl series? Also how many times did they play 13 games? They are your stats.

          • KWC

            12 regular season games. Big 12 champ game and then a bowl game. That gets you to 14 games. They did this several times between 2005-2010. Played 14 games 4 times. Played 13 games 7 times. Played 12 1 time.

          • JGamboa

            You should stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.

          • Stepdaddy

            it’s all about national broadcasting and which conf you’re in. Like porter said scar and other sec schools are pulling high rated recruits Bc of the sec halo. Texas gets a top class every year just Bc they are Texas. Plus we’ve been v competetive with the trailer trash outside of the last two years.

          • Stepdaddy

            OSU has rarely had a season (2011) where we did not have an un explainable loss, plus a loss to OU. I hope one of these years we get to test my theory–which is beat the teams you are suppose to beat don’t get boot stomped by OU and OSU will start getting better recruits. Maybe I am crazy, but I don’t think so.

          • David

            You are crazy if you think losing to ISU in 2011 was explainable. The only game we reasonably lose is LSU in natl title.

          • kspokesfan

            Not the way they played. We would have won.

          • Stepdaddy

            So go 12-0 and reach the playoffs every year we get better recruits? Okay I see where that might help. I say we move to the sec and play Ohio state, USC and fsu every year in non con then win a natty every year. I think that might help us get one or two more four star guys and a few top shelf 3 stars. We could also get strong NFL pipeline going I feel like that would help too. Those are just my ideas. I don’t know why gundy or any other coach in the NCAA is trying to do this.

          • Stepdaddy

            Well I like they way your thinking, but I as said above if OSU will simply play competitively, it will help immensely in recruiting. If you are a recruit watching the coaching in those games last year, its not impressive. It doesn’t make you think “damn, I can’t wait to play for those geniuses.”

          • Pistols Fired!!

            Kyle… proofread before clicking ‘post’… You are held to a higher standard than the rest of us!!! lol I doubt that I get a “than you” for this comment. lol

          • Pistols Fired!!

            Now dang it, Kyle… that was funny!!! Obviously not in a jovial mood today… 😉

  • Clint

    Wow – all the #Math in these comments. I kept waiting for 4 out of 5 dentists to recommend we don’t play CMU again!