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PFB Roundtable: Taking Stock of OSU Hoops

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The Pistols Firing team held a quick roundtable to catch up on Oklahoma State hoops. We hit the reset button on our expectations moving forward as conference play ramps up, talked about our biggest surprises and disappointments and more. Join us.

Sam Aldrich, Hoops Head

Who’s been the non-conference MVP for Oklahoma State hoops?

Kyle Cox, PFB Contributor
Jawun Evans… There’ve been several guys who have stepped up (Carroll, Averette, Dizzy) but overall, he is the most valuable player and will be until he goes pro.

Kyle Boone, Head of Recruiting:
I mean, it’s got to be Jawun Evans. He scores the most, he sets up teammates, and he’s been at his best in the biggest games this season. His usage rate according to KenPom is top-10 nationally and probably will be all season. OSU’s offense runs through him

Kyle Porter, Publisher
Gonna be the contrarian and say Jeffrey Carroll. We underrate how valuable he’s been because he doesn’t start and he gets his numbers quietly. His emergence has made the difference between a 8-5 OSU team and a 10-3 one.

Sam Aldrich
I like it. Anyone else in the Big 12 averaging over 15 PPG and 7 RPG? Can’t be many, if any at all.

On the flip side, who’s been the biggest disappointment so far this year?

Cox:
Jonathan Motley is avg 16.3 and 9.1. But just those two and I had to look it up.

Porter:
Biggest disappoint so far for me is Phil Forte. He hasn’t been bad, but he hasn’t been great either. I trust him to pick it up, but I’m not totally sure he fits into Brad Underwood’s style of play.

Boone:
I guess disappointment is relative. But I won’t single anyone out. The biggest disappointment overall is not getting Tavarius Shine back from his injury still. That’s been pretty overlooked. He was a projected starter and we haven’t seen him in over a month.

Cox:
Biggest disappointment has been Phil Forte. I don’t think it’s close. I didn’t expect a ton from any of the freshmen. Forte’s shot the ball better the last two games but those were all in garbage time. (Corpus Christi is all garbage time).

Aldrich:
Phil’s been mostly rendered ineffective against athletic/lengthy guards, no? I was surprised to see his 3-point % was only down 2.5% from his career average. Hasn’t looked comfortable at all.

Thomas Fleming, X’s and O’s
Sorry, coming in late — forte and it’s not even close. Even Solomon has carved out his niche as a competent rebounder. Forte just isn’t the same since before his injury.

Cox:
I don’t think Forte has been effective since Marcus Smart left.
What was that? Five years ago?

Aldrich:
Doesn’t help when Dizzy is shooting 51.3% from deep either.

Speaking of freshmen, the newcomers have matured pretty quickly and have shown some potential. Which freshman will go on to have the best career in Stillwater?

Fleming:
That’s a toughie

Cox:
Hmm… Lindy Waters. I’m all in. #LindyChitwood
Then Averette and/or N’Guessan.

Aldrich:
ill-make-it

Cox:
Yess!!

Boone:
Lindy. He’s a future pro.

Porter:
A future pro! In Sweden?!

Fleming:
I want to say Lindy because he has the potential to do it all

Porter:
I’ll begrudgingly say Waters because I think he’s awesome, but I really want to say Crime Dog.

Aldrich:
I’ll go Crime Dog- he’s so raw offensively, but you don’t see that kind of strength and athleticism every day. I think he’s got 12/8 written all over him as an upperclassmen.
We’ll wrap it up with this- Where does Oklahoma State finish in the Big 12 in 2016-2017? Is it enough for the NCAA tournament?

Cox:
#LindyHasTheClutchGene #TreyHasTheClutchGene

Boone:
Lindy’s a 3&D baller … I mean, Chandler Parsons still plays in the league!

Fleming:
4th or 5th and yes. That’s behind WVU, KU, BU and just another wildcard team to be safe.

Boone:
4th in the B12 behind KU, Baylor, WVU. They’ll make the tourney.

Cox:
I’d say 20-ish wins, which is probably around 4th or 5th. I think they’ll make the tourney.

Aldrich:
I’ll go 5th, after KU, West Virginia, Baylor, and Iowa State. That’ll do for a 7-10 seed in the Big Dance, and a heck of a team to prep for on short notice in March.

Porter:
I agree with fourth. People are too down after the WVU game. WVU is, like, a 2-seed. OSU will be fine. They’ll beat teams they should beat. As long as No. 1 stays healthy, I’ll say a 7-seed in the Big Dance.

Cox:
They’ve gotten blown out be two really good teams and lost to a good team on the road.
They’re really young.

Aldrich
Not bad for year 1 of Underwood in Stillwater after 3 conference wins last year! Agreed on the WV game, that’s a contender for the Big 12 title and essentially a more experienced, more talented version of ourselves.

Bonus question: Is this Jawun’s last year in Stillwater?

Cox:
Yep. I think so. If he stays healthy he should put up crazy numbers like Boone said.

Boone:
Is Trae Young coming?
[I think it’s his last year]

Aldrich:
Don’t even tempt me like that Boone

Porter:
He gone. (and he should be)

Fleming:
Yeah. Would there be enough scholarship spots if he stayed? Maybe if Dillard left.

Aldrich:
As it stands, I think we’re two over the max if Jawun stays, and one over if he leaves.

Fleming:
That’s a good issue to have but still an issue

Aldrich:
Could mean a RS for Amauri Hardy, too (Incoming four-star 2017 PG).

Boone:

 

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