Stinks/doesn’t stink: Camping World Bowl, GIA Attendance and Early Signing Day

Written by Kyle Boone

Your favorite hot takes column of stinks/doesn’t stink is back for a postseason appearance. Today, we’re diving into the Camping World Bowl, slumping GIA attendance and early signing day.

Camping World Bowl

If you’d told me or any one of the 30 Kyle’s at PFB that OSU would lose three home games and play a bowl game for a potential 10th win of the season, I would have told you to peace out of my happy space. But uh … here we are. And here’s Gundy this week reviewing the season and previewing the bowl game vs. Va. Tech.

“I don’t see our season as a disappointment. I know we all want to make the final four. Winning nine games is difficult. I think the people will be excited about being there. I think they’ll be excited about a location where there’s a lot to do. I would be surprised if we didn’t have as much of a fan following as we did a few years ago in Phoenix.”

Certainly there’s nothing you can do to improve your win total — TCU, Oklahoma and K-State you just can’t get back, after all — but there’s a weird dynamic to those Gundy comments that doesn’t sit right with me.

Is 9-3 a bad season? No. Is the Camping World a bad bowl? Not really. But, is it based off of preseason expectations and the roster’s talent level? My answer there is yes. Maybe I’d be more interested if it was Notre Dame instead of Virginia Tech.

No offense to the Camping World Bowl but ….


Verdict: Stinks

Slumping GIA attendance

There’s been many #stats thrown out on the Twitter this week regarding OSU’s slumping attendance at GIA, despite a 7-1 basketball team.

Attendance is down, which indicates either fans aren’t interested, don’t care yet, or simply aren’t bought in with the product on the floor. There’s innumerable ways to break it down and certainly it’s a case-by-case situation as to why people are choosing to stay home rather than packing up to get to GIA.

But here’s the facts: Basketball is a second semester sport. I cover it. No place — outside your KUs or Kentucky’s or Dukes — are selling out in November or December. They just aren’t. And for a program that lost its best player to the NBA and its best coach to Illinois, I’m not sure why there’s an outcry for people to come watch a team that, by most prognosticators predictions, is likely to finish in the bottom three of the conference.

Will the attendance change come Big 12 play? My guess is that there will be a slight uptick, but numbers will still be down. But here’s my not-so-hot take: Let’s wait until conference play before we fire up our pitch forks and call for fans to get off their bottoms.

Verdict: Doesn’t stink … yet

Early signing day

For the first time ever, the early signing day in college football will take place beginning on Dec. 20. We’ve talked about the benefits of it as it relates to OSU and the sport in general, but given its fast approaching date, I thought it relevant to hit on again today.

In previous years, OSU has lost key commitments late in the process. Ronald Jones was a late de-commit. Nick Starkel, too. So the fact that OSU can now lock these guys up essentially two months before they typically could is excellent news.

Spencer Sanders, OSU’s quarterback of the future, plans to sign early. As do several other OSU commits I’ve talked with in recent weeks. That means OSU coaches can turn their focus to the 2019 class and beyond much earlier than normal, and have little to no worries about major programs poaching in the final hour. I’m all for it.

Verdict: Doesn’t stink

  • Ric Willies

    The “If you told me x would happen, I would Y” writing tool, a PFB favorite.

    • Kyle Boone

      No no … a PFB staple!

      • GeoPoke

        Please work it into EVERY (I mean every. single. one. dammit) article.

  • David

    Why are we talking about GIA attendance in small games and not pumping up the big game on Saturday? Huuuuuge game against the Shockers. Huge women’s game the night before as well. We need to pack it to one or both.

    • GeoPoke

      Wife and I are going to both. We live in Moore and know the drive back will suck but it’s worth it. We’re making a day of it Saturday and enjoying our favorite establishments.

  • Sonny

    The great thing about the early signing period is that it locks down recruits before Glenn Spencer is fired, if he matters to them that is.

  • Okstate2011

    Remember how last year Underwood pumped up the fan base and students almost daily? I have not heard anything from Boynton. I hate Underwood but he knew how to get the fans excited.

    • Okstate2011

      And let the students in for free. Right now the seats are empty, give them away free and the students will spend money at the concessions. You’ll make more money this way than having empty seats.

    • GeoPoke

      It isn’t that Underwood pumped people up, he was just ‘the one’. Boynton seems like ‘the backup’ or second string. I think that lends more to it.

      • Okstate2011

        Ya that’s true. I’m not in Stillwater anymore and not sure how much student interaction he does, but it seemed there was always a picture or story about Underwood going around trying to get the students to show up.

  • Jawbreaker

    Is Spencer Sanders enrolling at semester?

    • guest

      for the millionth time no he’s not enrolling early

      • Jawbreaker

        Sorry, I didn’t know you had to say that 1 million times.

      • Mullet Power

        If these comments upset you so much – don’t read them?

  • Mullet Power

    post number 28 regurgitating the same message

    “aw shucks, this bowl is the most awful, no-good, dog-gone horrible bowl ever. OSU was supposed to win everything because they’re seniors. Now i’m sad because of it.”

    I hope the players don’t read this blog.
    I hope they actually want to PLAY in this bowl and not get embarrassed

  • okstate4life

    When you consider the talent on this team, the season they were capable of, the preseason expectations, does going to the Camping World Bowl stink? &%ck yes. However, this is the last game that many of these players will ever be in. It’s the last time they’ll ever march out on a field and play the game most of them grew up playing. Play like it, empty what’s left in the tank, beat the breaks off em and enjoy the moment. They’ll live much easier doing this instead of wondering about what the season could’ve been.

  • Yetipoke

    Pre-conference average BB attendance in GIA:
    2018 – 4,604 (current)
    2017 – 5,807
    2016 – 4,895
    2015 – 6,480
    Three-year average prior to this season: 5,727
    – The 2017 non-con game with best attendance was A&M Corpus at 8,342, and if memory serves was free admittance or some such inducement.
    – The 2015 non-con schedule was highlighted by Maryland and 11,104 folks in the seats.
    If 11,000 show up for the Shockers, the average for this year will be 5,518, which is not much different than what we’ve been seeing. Given the challenges facing this team over the last year, it’s really not an unexpected figure.