Poll Recap: The Defense Has Disappointed Fans

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Written by Phillip Slavin

There’s not much of a debate whether this is one of OSU’s best offenses ever or not (it is). Yes, they faltered against TCU, but through the first five games of the season, they’ve been either good or amazing.

We all knew they would be good coming into the season, and when healthy, they’ve easily surpassed my expectations.

That’s the offense. The defense is another matter, and also the subject of this week’s twitter poll.

Out of the 1,533 that voted, 782 feel that the defense has not lived up to expectations, while 629 voted that their expectations of the defense have been met.

That second one was the overwhelming favorite in the comments sections.

“I voted met my expectations cause I knew our secondary wasn’t very good” – Tyler Strader

“Met, because I didn’t expect much. I’m in believe it when I see it mode.” – Tmansdad

“They look like the 2007-10 defenses.” – Barry Ballinger

“They never meet expectations. I’m a Glenn Guy I love the dude and maybe it is what it is.. From a recruiting standpoint this is the best it can be and just force turnovers, but it leaves a lot to be desired. Unless we turn it around I think we are due for a change or maybe just a demotion because I think he can be a great motivator and probably has some good defensive principals..” – Saucy Takes

“#1 in big 12 in yards per play and #25 nationally. #3 in big 12 in points per play and #43 nationally. I think the perception of this defense is a lot worse than it actually is. If the refs don’t call a fumble a TD and Mason doesn’t fumble & throw a INT on a freaking screen pass the perception of defense is a lot better. The defense isn’t great maybe not even good but it’s not like they have played horrible this year.” – Tbeezy

Here’s the thing about this question; what were your expectations? Did you expect a top-10 nationally ranked defense or did you expect a good defense with no preseason first round draft picks and a young and experimental secondary? If it was the later and your expectations weren’t met, I don’t know what to tell you.

If it was the former, then no, they have definitely not lived up to your expectations.

Here’s the real question to ask: were our expectations too high? We all bought into Clemson transfer Adrian Baker before the season and thought he would be the answer for the secondary. Only, he’s barely played. The best guy has been A.J. Green and he’s looked, well, green.

We all wanted to buy into the Ramon Richards move. It hasn’t failed, he hasn’t allowed a lot of big passing plays to get past him like in years past, but he also hasn’t wowed us with a ton of big plays either.

We knew the defensive line had depth and talent at the top. They’ve looked good against everyone but Tulsa and TCU, getting pressure and getting into the backfield.

But really, if you ask yourself to be honest, this defense is exactly what we thought they would be coming into the season; good not great. Fast but not elite. Talented but no big stars.

Here’s the thing that really matters; they’re good enough to help bring another Big 12 title back to Stillwater, especially when matched up with that offense. If they do that, I think we’ll all change our expectation levels to met.

  • Tbeezy

    I will admit my expectations were too high but what was I suppose to do after all the orange kool aid Gundy was serving in the offseason?

    This is an above average OSU defense and I agree, if this offense plays to its potential it should be good enough to win a big 12 title.

    • Adam M.

      I aligned with the stats you spouted more than anything else in this post.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cd2ff9c396b28d0cfc4d02d2f1574326767e18b782fba9d91c48942031cb1985.png

      You can’t be upset if OSU is #1. If that’s the case what is your gauge for the defense? The answer is unrealistic expectations.

      • Tbeezy

        They are great at not giving up big chunks of yards playing their bend but don’t break defense. In that same comment I mentioned points per play which they are like 43rd in.

        I would love to Kyle to exactly what he did with Yurcich for Spencer and let’s see how the points per drive stack up.

        I’m saying my expectations were really high. After the year is over this defense will be looked as one of the better ones in the Gundy era. They aren’t great but good enough.

  • J.B.

    I thought the defense looked pretty good against TT’s normally high scoring offense. Not sure what happened against TCU though…It would be nice to compare what we did this year against TCU to what we did last year when we stifled them. I’m curious if TCU adjusted on offense as well.

  • Iceman

    They’ve really done well from a performance standpoint. They for the most part are where they should be on most plays (when they aren’t sprinting on and off the field every other play @glenn). They do a decent job of making plays and they’re deeper than most defenses we’ve had overall (not in the secondary, at all). Penalties and field position slaughtered them against TCU. I don’t blame the players at all of Tulsa. That was straight up @glenn again letting it happen. On one hand I’m fine with that because it’s hard to argue with keeping someone from scoring over 30 nowadays but it doesn’t help perception and or stats. They’re mediocre at tackling which is about as good as we ever seem to get and for some reason they don’t force as many turnovers it seems as in other years. I think they’re probably about as good of a group as we have had in the Gundy era. We just really never have that good of a defense even when they’re “good” compared to our average defenses. Mediocre is the term that perpetually comes to mind but with an offense that is firing on all cylinders mediocre is fine.

  • Les Miles

    “There’s not much of a debate whether this is one of OSU’s best offenses ever or not (it is).”
    I would reserve that statement until the season is over. We’re coming up on game 6. Until then, nothing is topping the 2011 offense.

  • Mkobize

    I think a lot of us were expecting something close to the performance of the 2011 Pokes. However, with the defense having trouble getting off the field in the TCU game, I fear this team will fall far short of that standard. But, they’re our Pokes and I love them.