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The Milwaukee Journal Sentinal’s Bob McGinn apparently found the Twitterverse to be a bit quiet on Wednesday night because on Thursday morning he published this and all the people everywhere went bat poop crazy.

The post is from McGinn, who is somebody Deadspin notes “may have more sources than any beat writer in the nation,” but the words that follow on Weeden, Luck, Tannehill, and Griffin are from various scouts around the league (those aforementioned sources).

On Weeden:

At the Senior Bowl, when he threw on air, great, when the game started he had two picks and looked so uncomfortable when he had to move. I do not see it with this guy at all.

The first part, okay I got it, he didn’t play that well in the senior bowl, that’s fair…but to base your entire view of him around one game in which he was throwing to guys he’d never played with? Seems a tad irrational.

Scored 27 on the Wonderlic, but scouts say he isn’t a quick study.

Um…huh? The report went on to say about Brock Osweiler: “He’s very smart (Wonderlic of 25) and handles himself very well.” Oh, okay, now I get it [shakes head because still does not get it].

Not a very strong arm. Not very good in the pocket. Average intelligence. He’s just a guy.

Put it in the locker, read it every day before practice, and in 2018 when Chris Myers is asking you how feel about winning the AFC title say “my teammates and coaches are the ones who did this, I’m just a guy.” I’ll post it on this blog and never write anything again.

On Luck:

He might have been picked ahead of (Peyton) Manning. He’s not a (John) Elway arm. Neither was Manning. If you were just taking him and Peyton out of college they have very similar characteristics and careers. Luck would have been faster and stronger than Peyton.

Isn’t it bizarre how little we’ve heard about him in the last month? And the “because we know where he’s going already” argument doesn’t work because we know where Griffin’s going too…

I think he’s got enough arm to play at this level, but I don’t think he elevates your whole team. His athletic ability is outstanding, and he’s got a good arm. I don’t think it’s great. What’s between the ears is pretty good.

So if this is a “not a great arm” I want to see a great one. Those scouts know these commercials aren’t real, correct?

On Tannehill:

He’s smart, a perfectionist, got a live arm, the prototype size and he’s athletic. He’s not a finished product, by any means. He’s kind of in the mold of Jake Locker last year.

Aggie perfection = 6-6.

If everyone just gives him time to develop I think he can

It’s 2012, not 1992.

I don’t think it will be a panic pick. It’s a reality pick. If you don’t have a quarterback in this league you’re not going to win.

Oh it will be a “the house is on fire and I have to grab one thing so I snag the laptop but I forgot about my three kids asleep in the back room” level panic pick. By whoever makes it.

On Griffin:

Very impressed in every aspect. Athletically, which is a given because he was a big-time track star in the state of Texas. He carries himself very well. A tremendous leader.

I included this because I wanted to be fair to the whole report.

He’s going to need technique work and fundamentals. But you cannot lose the fact that he’s got feet, touch downfield with accuracy, a strong arm. He’s charismatic and smart as (expletive).

He scored a 24 on the Wonderlic. I’m not saying he’s not smart (because I think he is and I also don’t think Wonderlic should determine how smart you are) but these evaluations are such a canvas for whatever the individual scout wants them to be. You can turn a 24 on the Wonderlic into “smart as —-” and a 27 on the Wonderlic into “not a fast learner.” It’s just kind of dumb.

Also, just so I’m on record as saying this, Griffin’s deep ball last year was something out of a silent film, just beautiful in every way.

Everybody is just assuming because of the Heisman and the socks and all that bs. . . . they are ignoring a lot of bad tape that he’s had. I don’t think he has vision or pocket feel, which to me are the two most important components of quarterbacking. He’s just running around winging it. He’s (Michael) Vick, but not as good a thrower.

The vision thing is fair, the Vick thing is not. People think that because you’re black you have to be compared to Vick, which is totally idiotic. He’s way more John Elway or Kordell Stewart than he is Michael Vick.

He has better arm action and is more accurate with his deep ball, but he’s not as good as Cam Newton. As much as is written about his athleticism, his athleticism under duress in the pocket isn’t even close to Cam Newton’s. This guy, the only way he gets big plays with his feet is if he’s got a wide-open field and the sea opens for him. He’s got a little bit of a selfish streak, too. Everybody was laying on Cam, but for some reason this guy has become gloves off. He doesn’t treat anybody good.

First of all, Cam Newton is pretty freaking good. Second, I feel like the end is right, everybody has become gloves in terms of criticizing him. I’m not saying that’s right or wrong, only that it’s the truth and that in today’s 2012 sports media landscape, that means a lot more than it used to.

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